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	<title>Comments on: Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 06 &#8211; Abandoned Choice</title>
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		<title>By: The Deathseeker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Aion OBT Experience</title>
		<link>http://panther.clanbluepanthers.org/2009/08/26/tokyo-magnitude-80-06-abandoned-choice/#comment-19309</link>
		<dc:creator>The Deathseeker &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Aion OBT Experience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] despite me having undergone this test for the same exact seiyuu recently in a Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 episodic. Anyway, Nonaka Ai seemingly fits the loli role here in terms of her voice, and that creeps me out. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] despite me having undergone this test for the same exact seiyuu recently in a Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 episodic. Anyway, Nonaka Ai seemingly fits the loli role here in terms of her voice, and that creeps me out. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Panther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Panther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ghostlightning: In which case this relates to my view that there is no objectivity, only subjectivity, since there can only be meanings assigned to things or situations or choices by individuals that have no general meaning. Well this is just reiterating the studies developed by sociology - we give meanings to things as society has given them in our eyes. And though it seems to be an integral function of humankind to give meanings, it is only biological evolution that has done so and has, at many times in the past and even now, given rise to errors (just as prejudice, discrimination, stereotypes, and more).

And if it were not obvious by now, I never had any faith in mankind, or myself, for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ghostlightning: In which case this relates to my view that there is no objectivity, only subjectivity, since there can only be meanings assigned to things or situations or choices by individuals that have no general meaning. Well this is just reiterating the studies developed by sociology &#8211; we give meanings to things as society has given them in our eyes. And though it seems to be an integral function of humankind to give meanings, it is only biological evolution that has done so and has, at many times in the past and even now, given rise to errors (just as prejudice, discrimination, stereotypes, and more).</p>
<p>And if it were not obvious by now, I never had any faith in mankind, or myself, for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyo Magnitude 8.0 06 and 07 Review - Though Choice and Curiosity &#124; Anime-Zone.NET</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] chose the first one but then she chose to send the kids back home. And if you are wondering why, Panther pointed out that it was because Mari have a flashback about her husband. It was her husband who [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] chose the first one but then she chose to send the kids back home. And if you are wondering why, Panther pointed out that it was because Mari have a flashback about her husband. It was her husband who [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
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		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becoming silly as an effect of circumstance is less desirable as &lt;i&gt;being&lt;/i&gt; silly. Camus didn&#039;t say this, this is already my reading of his thought.

Also, suffering is product of meaning. All animals feel pain, only humans suffer. Imagine Yuuki dying because Mirai said that &quot;The world should just break!&quot; There is no real pain - there are no physical triggers. However there is genuine emotional and psychological suffering precisely because of the web of meanings she associates with the events:

Yuuki
Family
Guilt
Powerlessness
Sudden Power (the world did break)
Powerlessness again (she wouldn&#039;t be able to bring Yuuki back)

These are all products of meaning. 

So what do I mean when I say everything is empty and meaningless? I mean that there is no &lt;i&gt;absolute&lt;/i&gt; or necessary meaning; there are only contingent ones. Meanings we &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t help&lt;/i&gt; but make, since meaning-making is integral to the function and operation of humans even as biological machines.

The meanings I, or Mirai, or Yuuki make have no universal or absolute consequence. But to the individuals, it means everything and is very consequential.
.-= ghostlightning´s last blog...&lt;a href=&quot;http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/solanin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Being an Adult Sucks and I Never Want to Grow Up (or at least graduate from college) Solanin is PAINFUL and I love it&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becoming silly as an effect of circumstance is less desirable as <i>being</i> silly. Camus didn&#8217;t say this, this is already my reading of his thought.</p>
<p>Also, suffering is product of meaning. All animals feel pain, only humans suffer. Imagine Yuuki dying because Mirai said that &#8220;The world should just break!&#8221; There is no real pain &#8211; there are no physical triggers. However there is genuine emotional and psychological suffering precisely because of the web of meanings she associates with the events:</p>
<p>Yuuki<br />
Family<br />
Guilt<br />
Powerlessness<br />
Sudden Power (the world did break)<br />
Powerlessness again (she wouldn&#8217;t be able to bring Yuuki back)</p>
<p>These are all products of meaning. </p>
<p>So what do I mean when I say everything is empty and meaningless? I mean that there is no <i>absolute</i> or necessary meaning; there are only contingent ones. Meanings we <i>can&#8217;t help</i> but make, since meaning-making is integral to the function and operation of humans even as biological machines.</p>
<p>The meanings I, or Mirai, or Yuuki make have no universal or absolute consequence. But to the individuals, it means everything and is very consequential.<br />
<span class="cluv"> ghostlightning´s last blog&#8230;<a href="http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/solanin/" rel="nofollow">Being an Adult Sucks and I Never Want to Grow Up (or at least graduate from college) Solanin is PAINFUL and I love it</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://panther.clanbluepanthers.org/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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